Max. And, re getting it looked at, yes; thing is, there arent too many smiths in my area who are comfortable working on lever-actions (and the ones that are, I dont trust). being a good functional maximum charge with 180 gr. Most of our deer were harvested at 30-45 yards. : .357" (except where otherwise specified in remarks). The one that went directly back to gun store was likely 2018 or 2019 but was still new in box. The .357 Magnum round is pushed to greater ballistic performance (add about another 600 fps and another 500 ft-lbs of energy, give or take) as well as a wealth of ammunition choices. Within a few weeks, the company got so many complaints, they halted production and never resumed. So there are several options available that are much less expensive than the fine examples listed in the article. I haven't dismissed the idea but I'll research the best rate-of-twist for it. We are not currently living in such times, when even steel-cased Russian 9mm is sold off the shelves at ridiculous markups. Own Stock. The last time I was at the range with my marlin in 45-70 all eyes were on meeveryone else shooting the newest AR/AK and here comes this doofus with a lever action thumper. The old Ford Pickup had that seatback that folded forward. With nice wood The big problem for me was the shape of the Contender grip which caused my hand to shake after just a few shots. A World Record Attempt and everyone is out at the range shooting and practicing. Then came panic buying of guns and ammo due to social unrest, and of course its a an election year. Lighter and tougher and more precise than ever, it's the perfect back country hunting rifle. It's accuracy is outstanding. This fire also flowed upwards in such a way that it encountered the inside edge of the revolver topstrap. Joseph Von Benedikt shows his custom 500 and how well it shoots. The .357 Magnum Carbine, Perfected | The Sixgun Journal And some states (North Carolina) consider that a concealed weapon. While Ive never loaded brass I have loaded shotshells on a card table in the living room with a mec 650. Brand: Winchester Firearms. It didn't quite make it, but still knocked the steel rams down. Custom craftsmanship applied to streamlined CNC manufacturing processes. I wish I had known Hornady was going to discontinue them, I would have stocked up on them. 357 Maximum - Reed's Ammunition & Research, LLC A couple of people got that familiar look in their eyes and started plotting their next purchase right there. Levers are light, easy to carry with quick target acquisition and reliability. This is the showpiece among Winchesters 1873 model range, and it had better be with a price tag at around $1,800. by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:35 pm, Post by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:57 pm, Post I passed up a .357 94 trapper several years ago it was a few $ more than I had on me and I couldnt get the seller to budge. I doubt nothing that Taffin says, but we both know that no gun maker will ever live with that kind of visible damage.But let's step back and look at what the .357 Maximum was designed to do. The .357 Maximum was developed in the early 80's by Ruger and Remington Arms as a silhouette cartridge for the Blackhawk revolver. They also make a valid home defense rifle AND a great truck gun, to keep the Karens and Kens from whining ASSAULT RIFLE. Many Max shooters (myself included) find poor accuracy with magnum cases. The 357 out-paces the 44-40 and 32-20 by a fair margin. Couldnt seem to understand that I couldnt and didnt care to at this moment. Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. The hole in the barrel and tube could not be repaired but were near the ends, so he shortened and crowned the barrel, put in a new mag tube spring. I have one with the turnstile safety. 45-70. I am going to start reloading though as JHP rounds for these calibers are expensive and I am apprehensive about using the easily found round nose bullets on a tube magazine gun. .38-40. Even though it was flawed engineering, it was the cartridge that suffered. Please enjoy those guns with your family on my behalf, as I will not be purchasing **anything** in CA in my continuing quest to remain off the CADOJs books. I've searched the internet without finding definitive answers. If you're gonna be stupid ya gotta be tough-. rifle is 17.1gr. Unless Marlin has COMPLETELY reformed their QC system, I would never spend $600 on one of their levers. .38 Spl is an absolute dream to shoot in a .357 lever gun. can you find sace for a backpack sized tote? Go to the Contact page for shipping information: For Remington .357 Maximum brass and Thompson Center "G2" Contender .357 Magnum 12" barrels rechambered to .357 Rem. Buy .357 Maximum SuperMag 180g Hornady XTP HP 1800 FPS 20 rounds: GunBroker is the largest seller of Pistol Ammunition Ammunition All: 972984640. . Click the link to go to the Contact page: If you choose to remove the forend, contact me first so you don't lose parts removing the forend! Springfield Armory SA-35 Pistol: Rebirth of the Browning P-35 Hi-Power. Nosler, and Speer reloading manuals all recommend the use of rifle (rather than pistol) primers due to the high operating pressure of the .357 Maximum. Maybe Ill be in a position to reload once I retire in 25 or so years but by then Ill probably have sold everything and moved back overseas so it wont be an issue. can anyone suggest a competent gunsmith? Did you go with the .375 Supermag rather than the .375 Winchester due to case length restrictions? Poppycock; the .357 Magnum is one of the best rounds for personal defense out there. I specialize in Thompson Center barrels but also rechamber CVA, H&R, and the new Henry single shots in .357 Magnum to .357 Maximum, .350 Legend, and a number of other .35 caliber cartridges such as .35 Remington and .358/.356 Winchester. Industry specs call out a 158-grain bullet at a velocity of 1,800 fps and a 180-grain bullet at 1,530 fps, both from a 10.5-inch vented test barrel. There was enough space there for a scabbard with a .30-30 in it. #17. Shooter's Reference Load Data for .357 Maximum Not quite as fast but a staple item is 296/110 with 23 gr. It should be noted the original loadings of the 357 mag were to 45,000 psi, but when the smaller framed 357's came on the market the pressure of the loads was reduced to 35,000 psi. Awesome. Youll see how relevant lever guns are next time the bolsheviks are in the white house. Everybody wanted to get their hands on my lever-action .30-30, and nobody who shot it was disappointed. Low supplies and very high demand. Winchester just introduced the 350 Legend for all the people who are stuck using straight walled cartridges. The most Fun guns I own. I think a lot of it is people who do not come from a hunting background and just want to look cool. Looks like they replaced my hammer with a used part and there is some marks on the front sight hood that werent there before. 1. L ess than 50 rounds fired through the barrel. Given its performance for me in those cases it seems it would make an excellent powder for use in the 357 in rifles. hollow points, you can aim dead on with it at 100 yds. Not all of us have the ability for various reasons to reload. . Ive been looking for a stainless 1894 in 44mag for years. With todays rail-mounted optics, that makes the 1894 CSBL tactical and practical, with the addition of an XS Sights Lever Rail and sight set. Thanks for reading! This gun has a hardwood stock and forend, case colored receiver, and 22" barrel. If you want a lever gun for your wall and occasional shooting, good luck doing better. The Mossberg 500 Pump Action Shotgun is one of the most popular home defense shotguns on the market. This is a very efficient cartridge for hunters of medium game animals like deer and hogs. (Winchester 94) and .22lr (Marlin 39A x2) with various accompanying sidearms. I had the model 19 years ago. I had a 30.30 then I decided to upgrade to a Extremely fun to shoot makes them relevant. 2/ there are other living constraints and issues that make reloading not an option at this time. Id bet the old timers that rode the wild and woolly west would have liked the magnum in a rifle. by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:25 pm, Post Henry is finally putting out some side loading gate models, while still retaining the muzzle end magazine tube, so as to make them easier and safer to unload. 11 February 2004, 13:28 dgr416 The Casull is way shorter than the Max and ~the same OAL as the 360 DW. W296 in .357 Rifle Loads | Ruger Forum The 1894 CSBL has a 16-inch barrel, with an 8-shot tube. rounds border on simply dumb when the .357 Maximum is so much more accurate and easier to shoot accurately with its moderate recoil. Several years back I wanted a light weight all weather stainless steel single shot rifle chambered in 357 magnum, and the Rossi was the answer. The most common include: There are other firearms chambered in the maximum, but their availability is limited and prices can be high. . I really like my lever guns, also have a early JM guide gun in 45-70 and also one in 450 Marlin. I can probably name a couple dozen powders that will work in the .357. As to market, a very subjective matter. I never got to shoot either. Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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It is a tough call since their chamber work and mine are so, so close to the same. Why? In 357 max 24" Douglas premium barrel 1in16 twist shoots 180 pointed flat point over 4227 with CCI 450 primer .7 inches at 100 don't have to worry about resale I'll keep this one. Its a nice round and rifle. Both were chronographed in the same gun (8" Colt Python). In May I went to Utah and took my brother, his son, and a handful of their friends out shooting. Bagged in plastic, clean, and well oiled. Ha! My one friend was shooting 158jsp out of his as they shot very well. But those new X models are very hard to get now. Since there is very little commercial availability for the .357 Rem. . Modern black rifles offer options older firearms cant compete with. Ammo Boxes and Storage Containers for Sale | Midsouth Shooters Finally needed cash and sold it to a collector of old west guns. It loads long, with a cartridge overall length (COL) of 2.145 inches, well over the published max COL of 1.990 inches. And has since been dropped by everyone except TC.. It too feeds with no problems but is more work to make. Accurate Arms, Hercules, Hodgdon, Hornady, IMR, Lyman, Nosler, RCBS, Sierra and Speer. Yup. We used Small Rifle primers for all load data, and they did fine with the propellants we tested. Night and day in service and I didnt have to wait over a month. Have you tried hand-loading and experimenting with overall length? You would be hard pressed to find an all around cartridge as good as the .357. The revolvers that were built in this caliber are rare, and consistently go for a premium over other Ruger Blackhawks. My findings are three of us used 357 mag out of 2 Rossi lever at 20 inch and one Marlin with 16.25 to hunt blacktails and elk. Re: Reloading the 357 MAXIMUM. (I bought a Glenfield 30A at a gunshow for $200 about 5 years ago. Im sure even more now. The 1873 Deluxe Sporting is that classic rifle, dressed to the nines with a color-case hardened finish and checkered pistol grip. My lever is a Winchester in .45 Colt, for which you can not only reload, but you can reload pretty close to double the pressure of a handgun round, as long as you are using a modern rifle, and depending on the weight of the round. Bare essentials. Choose to either optimize the MAGnum chamber or go all the way to the .357 MAXimum or .350 Legend chamber. The fact is, .357 lever action rifles are proven game-getters, as they are well-suited to whitetail and hog hunting in thick timber at close(r) range, inside about 150 yards. Last one he had and probably will get for some time. .30 Carbine vs .357 Magnum - milsurps.com The .357 Maximum is a "stretched" .357 Magnum case; it's about 0.315 inch longer than its parent. All Shooting Times subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. No turnstyle safety on top of the bolt to remove. Hornady XTP 158 gr. And as far as lever action rifles in pistol calibersthey have never been irrelevant over their 150 year history. Manufacturer Cimarron Firearms br brModel 1892 Lever Action Riflebr brSKU AS621br brCaliber .357 Magnumbr brCapacity 10 Roundsbr brBarrel Length  20 Oct CIM CA2903 CIM UBERTI 1894 RIFLE 38-55 26" Brand: CIMARRON FIREARMS CO Item Number: CIM CA2903 UPC: 814230101112 Cimarron Firearms, the leader in authentic replicas from America Glock #32 (357 Sig) -- #13 rounds magazine -- #3 Magazines and loader only! Since the rules have changed again effective this fall I have came up with another case based on the 444 marlin necked to .375 at 1.8 inches long. 357 Maximum, Everything You Need to Know! MGM Barrels TC - YouTube I cant go the range without people coming over to try it out. Velocities can exceed 2,000 fps in a 14-inch barrel, and that could make a hollowpoint bullet intended for .357 Magnum velocities behave like a varmint bullet. I only have a little experience with .357 SIG (a friend has a Springfield XDM in said chambering) but it seems a reasonable round. A few javelina even took up residence beneath a collapsed radar dish, they just tunneled under the edge and hid out all hunting season. The world's most powerful firearm database. Marlin made a name for themselves offering an improved version of the Winchester action starting in the 1880s. The .35 Remington case is basically a .308 Winchester (but slightly narrower and shorter) with a .358" diameter bullet stuffed into it. They show up now and again and they are a really fine rifle. .357 Magnum Rifle (Hodgdon Data) reloading data with 102 loads. Ruger developed a Blackhawk specifically for the cartridge, but word of barrel erosion and "flame cutting" came to light quickly and production of the revolver was ceased with only about 400 produced. (Ive been running 7 grains for handgun loads.). Truth About Straight-Walled Cartridge Ballistics - Gun Digest - Gun Reviews Despite the fact there is little commercial production for the .357 Remington maximum, the cartridge is well liked by hunters who understand the velocities, energy, and recoil it produces makes for a very efficient and manageable cartridge. It took only a few rounds to actually erode (read cut) that section. Ed Palumbo from Tualatin, OR on July 21, 2015: I had the opportunity to fire a colleague's .357 Max "Contender" and he worked with my .41 Magnum. Reloading The .357 Remington Maximum - Reload Ammo It is also more effective when used with a long gun, where it is legal to hunt with rifles. But it didnt came from the Marlin factory that way, and it took a custom lever gunsmith a lot of work and a lot of replacement parts to get it there. . I was surprised I didnt see any comments about the Henry Big Boy X. I bought this in a .357 mag at BassPro for $800 and it has the side gate for loading.