We are sinners. If so, how did He seek The Lord through study and prayer? The regulars here are great people. MLD, I do believe that satan is bound with a chain of some sort. What is the biblical model for dealing with leaders who blatently sin? Many of them do indeed have this going on, yes. If you were trying to help and that help in some way exposed something evil-there were plans to rid of you. Evidently the vast reach doesnt include responsibility to inform all those reached. Pastor Chuck Smith in 2006; the Calvary Chapel phenomenon, which now includes more than 1,000 churches nationwide and hundreds more overseas, began with the 25-member church Smith founded on a Costa Mesa lot in 1965. Were not going to speculate on the blogs right now, he said. Sharon is still a strong and encouraging leader for her firefighting unit despite the sadness of losing her daughter in a car accident involving her son Bode. I struggle with hate for it, and my own self image because of It. I dont like that at all. Oh yeah lets take care of that child playing with a snake, the snake is actually a licorice stick, nope no millennium there! Also some of these churches are teaching that there is no rapture but all the prophecies in Revelation have already been fulfilled, and that Nero was the antichrist, so theres a lot of sifting through garbage that you have to go through to find a good church! Flynn, one cannot separate doctrine from practice; the two do not exist separately. Bob, in my opinion, respects people that challenge him because hes a competitive type of guy but bring your A game. isnt she half of the problem? I hope his family and wife learn to love and trust again. THIS IS DISGUSTING and not of God. Our passion and purpose is to make disciples by connecting you with Gods Word through a variety of digital and media platforms. As far as I can see Bob Coy hasnt been allowed to stay in his sin like the WV thing was about last week. The man had forced her to perform oral sex, she said. Jesus denied he was setting up a kingdom on earth and somehow you insist he was mistaken and that he actually is you have the place, Jerusalem and you have the time period, 1,000 yrs. Broward State Attorney Mike Satz says he was never notified about the investigation. @605 I sure hope that those are incorrect facts. If you love Me, keep My commandments. The words of our witness take to the air on the wings of our works. I remember him saying many times, do not put your faith in man because man will let you down including me, put your faith in God. He is human, I will be praying for him and his family. MacArthur is being grossly misrepresented here. Lorenzo, You have an obsessive form of projection, as evidenced by your post here, from your viewing of pornography and thinking of other women while youre being intimate with your wife. When that sold well, on the spur of the moment they added another day. maybe you could pray for everyone and call it a day. Rest assured, God will not be mocked.". Unfortunately dont think he should ever be restored to ministry. Money really is the root of all kinds of evil. Martin Luthers Disciple says: So Gary, why do you bring up the Lutheran thing. In fact, the concept of an earthly reign of Christ,of any length of time is foreign to the NT. Hi Lorenzo, There is another reason some of us choose monogamy, and that is love. Try and keep up:). They are the ones truly in need of prayer. When you have availability and opportunity its just a matter of time. I guess you deemed references to lying in the Bible as Calvinist, so they dont apply to you. The churchs assets are around $135 million, according to the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability. Andy & Barbara, I said earlier (and was alluding to these verses) in apocalyptic literature every time there is a mention of thrones, it is a heavenly scene and not an earthy scene. Most of us live in glass houses anyway. Make your own application, Bob wrote: Ive studied John Macarthur for quite some time and know him to be a wolf in sheeps clothes. I may have forgotten the exact amount but it was somewhere between 3,500.00 and 5,000.00. take y words and spiritualize them.. In 2006, gubernatorial candidates Charlie Crist and Tom Gallagher personally pleaded for Coy's endorsement, though he declined. I would also see their wives looking at them and nudging them. Bob knew all the more well what he was doing, there wasnt some demon forcing him into this action. There was too much drama with Kennedys passing at Coral Ridge. Well said. He will heal it. Isnt it the Lord Jesus that transforms lives and grows places of worship? Muhammad Ibn-Raqib : You are so right ! Michael, you know that this thread is going to deteriorate. The woman told him "she had an experience with God and has found forgiveness" for Coy over his abuse. That seems to say that if you are have no power and authority then you wont cheat. Sorry but when my Bible says that he died not for my sins alone but for the sins of the whole world, then anything else is garbage! Lorenzo, http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/82410505140/a-2008-study-found-that-women-showed-signs-of, Ohhh, Lorenzo, bad form to shout in all caps. If so, what so called ministry does Bob demonstrate fidelity in that he can be restored to? Whats the rationale for removing all of a guys teaching from the internet when he fails morally. He resigned he was not fired! Which is it? Bob is still as precious as ever to our Father. With Bob Coy I immediately think of healing for him and the family as I didnt consider him as dangerous to the body. I know God is not surprised by all this but we all need to get a grip! Thanks Michael. What you are doing is accusing someone you dont know of sins that you know nothing of to deflect guilt from someone you idolize. Con man. Were the prophecies of Revelation already fulfilled? 34 For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he himself says, The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at my right hand, 35 until I make your enemies your footstool., 36 Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.. Your soteriological arrogance is nauseating. Here we are, with sicknesses, war, hate, famine, destruction world wide. You, on the other hand, seem to have difficulty. Join together in prayer for Pastor Bob Coy and his family! I am not telling them to let him keep his job. What was the result of your victimization? The buzz that started as an anonymous comment on calvarychapelabuse.com has been confirmed. As I understand it, it was Bob Barnes who made the issue known to the board. I pray that he must show true repentance and fruit before he is ever allowed to preach from any pulpit, and I pray that process is not rushed along as we often have seen happen in the past with other fallen pastors. He failed, thats what men do. Now would be a good time to write us a full article on this issue. Time for dinner. Listen to my advise forget what others are doing if you are having issues with porn, just stop it. Lordship doesnt mean sinless but you cant have Jesus as savior without Him also as Lord they go together. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and SHALL REIGN WITH HIM A THOUSAND YEARS. Go to Him as a child and offer your heart as a servant He will guide your steps. It is the second-largest megachurch in Florida, according to the Hartford Institute for Religion Research. Scripture tells me Bob C thought it, conceived, it and did it. The detective told her that he couldn't destroy the files, but he closed the case that day. independent local journalism in Miami. Moe- I misquoted the verse- I am usually more astute than that. I showed that everything in Rev 20:1-6 was symbolic and figurative (angels dont have hands to carry a real chain to bind a spiritual being. So 100 percent of all complaints should be at those in church leadership who leaked the news. You added the words SEVEN YEAR tribulation to that quote. Bob chose and Bob did it. Way to take it out pf context monk. Ushers passed tissue boxes down the rows as his followers wept. From the interviews I have heard and the people that have commented who were saved at that church who grew in that church and were serving in that church, yes it does seem like the message was right and the fruit is good and its fruit that will remain! But I suspect the board is not relishing any sordid details; on the contrary they feel compelled to cover for the reputation of the christian church. Careful with that pride sir:). Did Diane Coy get remarried? - AnswersAll - answer-all.com We all have Consciences and generally know right from wrong (some disagree on some issues as being moral or immoral but in general). Calvary Chapel will always be my church, I never went there thinking that my pastors were saints, I went their to learn how to become a better person, how to live a faithful life with God, how to try and become more like Jesus TRY because no one in this planet has walked without sin except JESUS. If there werentBob would just own up. we his congregation, and his family, are the ones that need to deal with it yes or no? However, Bob has disqualified himself, perhaps for the rest of his life, from the office of Pastor. He resigned he was not fired! In a lawsuit, a woman named Lori Pollitt said after she had moved from Texas to Idaho to work for Kestler, he repeatedly demanded she divorce her husband, give up her children to adoption, and marry him. Is free will not involved in our salvation? So even though they have campus pastors, no one was felt to equal BC. I have sympathy for this man (and especially his innocent family) because the Lord is instructing me in compassion, I also know that it has taken many years for my family to recover from the harm and hypocrisy of the leadership of this church under the helm of this man. As churchgoers held their hands up in ecstasy, Sauder read from Matthew and promised that Jesus was ready to heal. Make your own application. In 2009, a fatal wrong-way crash caused by a soccer mom killed eight people. It would be good to listen to her insight. Pastor Robert Coy, the former Las Vegas casino entertainment director turned religious leader for one of Florida's biggest megachurches, has been accused of molesting a 4-year-old girl. Am I reading that Coy bought out churches and did not use a large chunk of the 103 million raised and praised by Chuck to build out their new campus? This man was struggling with sin. Pride is something that could be seen from his pulpit for many years now. She loves binge-watching and can spend hours talking about movies and TV shows. Why? I thought so. May you find love and fulfillment with a significant other who will love and accept your world view. Let me answer some of your comments posed as questions: I doubt anyone has any idea where the 103 million was used. Where Is Pastor Bob Coy Now 2020She'd never even told her family about come now and get real it is plain as day, that if you really read the Bible with all your heart you would know that the mark of the beast is a bar code stamped on your forehead. Trusting in Gods providence, protection, provision and direction, the staff of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale will continue our mission to make disciples, through regular services at all campuses and through myriad other ministries the church has established over the years.. Bob got caught with the constables 17 yr old daughter and he had paid for the abortion?? He had been in hot water in the '90s when multiple women in his church claimed he'd sexually harassed them, but Smith gave him another chance. Whats George Zimmerman up to these days? Flynn, I havent reseached this in its entirety but there seems to be 89 verses on election. Isnt this why our precious savior came? The way we are transformed is by accepting the Rest that remains. Calvin did not come up with any new doctrines, nor did he teach the mangled misrepresentations that you have presented. You said that the 1,000 yrs had to be taken literally. Anonymous? "Our pastor, he committed adultery with more than one woman. She was driving aggressively in the wrong direction as she was delayed by traffic to reach the destination, reported Gone Too Soon Fandom Wiki. Pray for Pastor Bob, his wife and family and the CC Ft. Lauderdale staff and congregation. I completely agree with Michelle @175. Coral Ridge is an excellent church. MLD, I didnt realize you were mathematically challenged, and unable to compare scripture with scripture, He will confirm a covenant with many for one seven. In the middle of the seven he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. We should have stoned that adulterer. Is your information reliable? Boy do you have to stretch to believe this stuff. Otherwise, at least he doesnt get rich off of Jesus and doesnt bilk people of their money and tows the moral line he lays down. You my friend constantly bring him up. Pastor Bob was screwing women other than his wife. Im over 40, never married, do not view porn, and am still a virgin and guess what? But there is a big difference. Coy certainly paid a heavy price for his infidelity: His family has broken to pieces, and his chapels packed with thousands of adoring fans have been replaced with a half-full nightclub in Boca. The dinners were not at a charge per se. In a piece about the Iraq War, he called Saddam Hussein a "rabid dog" and wrote that "we cannot simply sit idly by and let evil happen." Yes I do. To all of those who are criticizing: Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Lets let our new folks visit and vent. "If you're foolish enough to go through with this story it would hurt a lot of people," he added, refusing to provide more details about the scandal. Two years later, her family sued Calvary, alleging leaders should have done more to stop Thomas. I have been lurking the past few days and your rabid attacks on Michael are evidence of your profound dissatisfaction with yourself and your need to project your own dissonance on him, me or others who you refuse to dialog with. We are called to love and forgive. Baker and haggard were false teachers. They could not take the invasion of their religion as the king of Prussia made them worship with the Calvinists that another story. Anything at all? I never been to CC but I read on many different blogs about them and I would like to share the Scripture from Psalm 2:11-12 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. I still attend CCFL because I believe that I can help some of the younger members. This my sister is a 4 part series for who ever your present Pastor is and I think this is the perfect time for all Pastors to pray about this teaching. It was the Catholics then the reformed then the anabaptists to our modern movements of which CC was one, we shall have to wait and see what will be the next movement God raises, hey dont be so sad, CC had a good run, what was that like 50 years? MLD, I see. You will have new people to blame for the fact that your pastor couldnt keep his pants on. You can listen at their website. This thread will be closed shortly so I can have an evening to do other things. Ok I got it:) So do you NOT believe jesus is coming back for the bride one day? he pronounces judgement 4.) If he is not happy with the wife, divorce her first and then if you want to go spread your seed, go ahead. Thank you for sharing this hard news, Michael. 7 And when the THOUSAND YEARS are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the NATIONS WHICH ARE IN THE FOUR QUARTERS OF THE EARTH, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. Psalm 34:17 The righteous cry out, and the Lord hears them; he delivers them from all their troubles.18 The Lord is close to the broken hearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit. I hope that Pastor Bob has not given his wife an STD. Many members expressed disappointment, encouragement, and hope on the church's Facebook page. Like. Of course all of this is only necessary if Bob continued his maneuvering with long tethers to his followerscause thats how unhealthy people of influence roll. [2] And if these things are true then I would run from CCFL if those practices are not dealt with. That was my first church. May The Lord continue to bless you in your growth as you discover your gifts and calling and use them for the furtherance of his kingdom, my prayers are with you and CCFL, that God would be in complete and total control as he ordains those he has called to lead in this difficult hour, for we know that God is on the throne and he never fails! Too much evidence to convince me otherwise. v.23 and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven periods of time pass over him, v.25 and seven periods of time shall pass over you, till you know that the Most High rules the kingdom of men and gives it to whom he will.. just because others in the Body of Christ hold to different conclusions regarding aspects of theology doesnt require them to be wrong. I dont remember much of it. I understand your hearts pain and I presume you are a single young woman so the thought of a man or woman in the ministry falling is very disheartening to say the least. That said, of course we all pray for his restoration to God, for his marriage, his family and those of you who entrusted yourself to his leadership. And there they go, a lamb is not a lion a lion and a lamb are the same lol, anybody want a pretzel? An Insider's Perspective: Pastor Bob Coy Said One Day He'd Disappoint Do you think that this is the only sin we are all vulnerable to ? The 8-9 years I was there she was never around and hardly did any ministry. Your silence at the question presented to you is not a projection but a resounding answer to your hypocrisy, and the points I present are nowhere addressed, except to say Im an angry man, didnt Jesus speak of righteous indignation, but what did he say of cowards and hypocrites? I have spent years hearing people around me saying, Bob Coy is so funny!, Bob Coy knows how to do church! ad nauseum. I never liked him .he was a smooth talker actor on stage and the bigger he became the bigger and cockier he became. You chose to join in I did not initiate the conversation. Is an argument really being expressed that the reporting of the news should have waited until after Sunday for Bobs wife and his children? The internet and increased availability of sexual content, both in the explosion of adult entertainment and media in general has really opened the door to men (and boys and women and girls) to be exposed to so much. Anyone can fall at anytime ! Thak you for sparing me hahaha, I already had my sleep for the night, and for not trying to make me a Calvin disciple, I see how they turn out hahaha! He is being destroyed in the media and the usual covering has not been applied by CCCM. I do pray for the restoration of Bob and his family. Im a line cook (staff member) at Calvary chapels restaurant The Grill, I went to the church staff meeting at 2:30 today (4/6/14) where this information was officially announced. It is not an easy process, but you will find one. I hope they reconsider that vision in light of his failure. Which is precisely why I asked for suggestions several, several times. Blessings and peace to you as well, Dusters. Did you just take the mark of 666? I came to this blog long ago aghast that things negative were being said about CC. When he went back to CCFL by then many family members from another state arrived and had jobs waiting for them at CCFL. His idea was a huge hit, one of the first in a wave that has become known as the Jesus movement. 6 The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together; and a little child shall lead them. The internetbeing able to attend service from your computer also became possible. Daughter- There area few Pastors there (wont mention names) that have taken on BCs mannerisms and style. What about Calvary Chapel West Palm Beach, did that one survive the CC Florida curse? Beating a brother up as you mention Im sure is not what Jesus meant by loving your enemy and turning the other cheek! didnt they come to fort lauderdale to start calvary together? Megachurch Pastor Bob Coy abruptly resigned Sunday afternoon, ending his 30-year leadership at one of the largest churches in the country. From that inner circle of men trying to navigate this atrocityI really doubt they want everyone they have shared Christ with for years to hear the details about their beloved pastor???? Did he confess before or after he was busted? Coy Randall Gibbs (December 9, 1972 - November 6, 2022) was an American NASCAR driver, assistant coach for the Washington Redskins, and co-owner of Joe Gibbs Racing. Our focus as sinners needs to be on the health of our individual, intimate relationship with Him. I could see being gracious to a guy who practiced and modeled it and was truly privatebut the fact is Coy was a big time celebrity (and probably will be again) and he had a broad congregation and broad viewershipand its probably right to let everyone know what happenedwhich as usual the blogs are standing in the accountability gap. You sound too often like a bored office worker that just likes to argue with people online. yup. well then go ahead by all means please cast the first stone. He resigned. Hugh, How would you rate the fruit of Coys doctrine? She didnt want Vince to have to make the difficult decision of whether to turn off her life support, either. Miami's independent source of Youre right. Interesting point and something Brodersen/CCCM and Smiths/TWFT are battling overthe IP of Chuck Smith and if his work was his or the property of CCCM. It falsely teaches that a person must walk well enough to prove that they were saved. Im still waiting for Super Troopers 2 over here, but will have to check out Goonies 2 as well . Coddington grew up in Rupert, Idaho, reading all the car and hot rod magazines he could, and got his first car (a 1931 Chevrolet truck) at age 13. But something is stopping them from allowing that to happensomething they really do not want to share. I have visited many other churches, I am not a Coy groupie, and consider myself spirit filled. I should have welcomed you to the site and clarified your thoughts before firing one over your bow. When confronted with his sin he stepped down, he could have fought it or refused to step down as many have, but he didnt. The Asst Pastors are not as annointed or equiped imho- and frankly I cant deal with Chets over the top, Broadwayesque mannerisms read: distraction. What's even weirder is that a bunch of basically identical articles about her that state it was a rumor prior to the series dropping but now is "debunked due to her being in the series" which makes zero sense since people can die after filming an interview and just shows they didn't watch the series. No one will recognize him on the beaches of South France or strolling through Florence. In 1997, Coddington was inducted into the Hot Rod Hall of Fame.[11]. NOTHING can take that away ! Problem is it turns into pride and a business instead of a ministry. I truly pray for him and his family. Hes aiming for restoration. We need to have discernment these days otherwise many shall be deceived. Would the owner of this blog if he was a Christian be relishing and rejoicing in the fall of a Christian pastor, if he was a Christian? That is indeed, spiritually scary. (My friend and I agreed to disagree about Coys handling of Scripture..or, the lack thereof, deciding it would be best to study separately rather than keeping our yearly tradition of doing a combined study.) Didnt God provide for this with the whole concubine thing. He is in the process of restoration. Were still worshiping the same old gods. It cant be, for me and for the entire planet. I admit that I on occasion, more often than Im comfortable with I struggle with trusting God. How you define orthodoxy isnt the final word on the matter, is it? In every church there were false teachings, traditions of men, worldly compromise, hypocrisy in the leadership and pastors who justified everything. I understand your reaction as a visitor. At times I feel I get a lot of unnecessary flack from some people, but they have to feel comfortable in expressing their opinion, even if I disagree. Put your trust in the One who will not fail you. Neither of them has shown their face since all this broke. They also had a singer who wore tight jeans that may not have been by todays standards showy, but her mannerisms drew attention and I would look at the men in the audience and see all their eyes were on her- and I am sure she knew it. If they are true, there is a greater problem than Bob Coys moral failure. Am I hearing that part of fundraising project plan involved Bob and his wife putting a price on the biblical practice ( and requirement for elders) of hospitality, charging people to have dinner or lunch with them. he made a huge mistake. Matt Tague, former assistant pastor at North Coast Calvary Chapel in San Diego, was fired by the church after he was arrested in May on six counts of lewd and lascivious acts on a minor under 14 years old. I forgive him and i still love him. There are many adversaries to the life of a believer. Answer mine first! LOL. In other words, on any given day what looks like a bunch of anonymous posts are actually not. Im sure he sins just like the rest of us. Megachurch Founder Bob Coy Accused of Molesting 4-Y-O, Sexually Abusing Her Into Her Teens. I dont have time to comment much, but let me clear up a couple of things. It is never healthy. NONE. Resigned or fired? This will certainly be a season of emotional turmoil for CC Fort Lauderdale, as they lose their senior pastor. Anonymous, if what you wrote is true, this is the most repulsive thing Ive read yet on this thread. after being a Christian? This is very important Michael. Perhaps Michael or Alex could follow up with that and find out. Like what he made his own brother do? Police say Thomas has admitted to the abuse (though his criminal trial is pending). You mean like Jesus was a bull in a china shop and came in and turned over the money changers and made a whip and judged that which did not belong in the house of God, just like these false doctrines that contradict Gods word, do not belong in the church of God, dead doctrines that reveal themselves in the festering fruit, Ive been to these reformed churches Calvanist churches, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Reformed Episcopalian, etc, and for the most part are stiff with doctrinal rigor mortis, so its readily apparent why Satan has injected these doctrines early on into the church, as you see the ineffectual fruit if produces. The Bible is clear on how to handle all this so there really isnt much to argue about. http://www.charismanews.com/us/43401-confessing-moral-failure-meagchurch-pastor-bob-coy-resigns-calvary-chapel-fort-lauderdale?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter.