View more auctions here. This page was last updated: 04-Mar 00:33. I am no authority, but I believe I know the law on this subject. Got one of each. A great design of a pistol. Something went wrong. His design has been in constant use since before the Civil War. Changes were made in the production guns to make sure they could not be passed off as an original. I got to fire a few cap and ball revolvers when on holiday in Italy. I have been told of caps jamming up a Remington Revolver, but in over Twenty Years of shooting Remingtons, have not had a single jam caused by a cap! Fine quality pistol, exhibits high standards of BORE IS GOOD 44 Caliber; 80% blue, good bore, very good grips, 8'' barrel, REPRODUCTION NEW MODEL ARMY REVOLVER IN VERY GOOD CONDITION. Ive made it a long way by doing what CSMs tell me to do, so I shoot it at least once a month. Dear Mr. Nickel, Stamped on top of octagon barrel "1855 SPAIN". 1858 remington by armi san marco I use the same 452s in my bps that my wife uses in her .45 acp both 452s with the ring shear it is still .450. . For powder loads, the .36s usually run 15-20 grains (that is by volume, not by weightso you MUST use a measure), while most loads for .44s that Ive seen (all my guns are .36) are 25 to (max) 35 grains. Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. Rare US coins, Carson City, Nevada history, Redheads. Ill stick to smokeless powder firearms from now on (because Im lazy!). Nothing wrong with meat harvesting or game management, says a fellow Texan. WebAsm armi san marco 1858 Cylinder Pin #165 Pre-Owned $22.99 weimdog27 (722) 100% Buy It Now Free 3 day shipping Sponsored Armi San Marco MSM inc dual trigger set with adjustment hawken muzzle loader $150.00 eldorablerentals (1,449) 100% Buy It Now +$9.50 shipping Sponsored ARMI SAN MARCO ASMREMINGTON 1858BLUESTEEL I had one of the Pietta 1858 Remingtons and while I enjoyed shooting it and learning about the history and evolution of firearms, the cleaning requirements are intense. My dad of course saw them when they were new. Actually it was because of the pony on the grips AND the name, Colt won the lawsuit. A) Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolver. Safety pins, safety notches, po-TAY-tow, po-TOT-owe. Very scary as all get out. Also on the note of black powder, someone with a lesser felony conviction can own a black powder gun as long as the magazine cannot be altered to fire High power center fire ammunition (45-70 and .45 colt cowboy rounds do not apply). The .44 Remmington is a very strong gun. That sucker started flipping all over the place. Web* Armi San Marco, copy of Remington Model 1858, .44 cal, s/n 61367, black powder revolver. I do have to give credit to ASM for the fact that most of their reproductions were historically correct. And if both Buffalo Bill and Clint Eastwood liked it in different centuries, you know its got to be good. 1858 Remington Thanks for giving some info on the handgun side of the black powder world. Got a pair of Ubertis, one stainless and one blue (Thunder and Lightning). 1873 Rifle Manual. View Item in Catalog Lot #242 (Sale Order: 241 of 708) Sold for: $120.00 to F****b "Tax, Shipping & Handling and Internet Premium Modern Reproduction I loaded it to Piettas speck of 15 grains, and the ball didnt make it past the forcing cone. Plain walnut grips. 1858 remington by armi san marco I always chuckle when I clean it in the sink with soap and water. If the shooter was a little rough with the gun, and dropped the hammer into the Half Cock Notch, the tip of the trigger could break off, radically altering the sight picture. ASM was so bad, even ASM parts seldom fit. Both sets of these .38 revolvers seem just a bit smaller in the grips and frames than the ASM .45's. They thought if they started raising the price on their guns to in the, same range as Uberti that all the problems would go away. I wasn't there. I have a LeMat replica, fine in every way except the rammer being a piss poor design, and the two-mode hammer not working well in shotgun position. It was so bad, I did something I have never done before, or sinse; I had an action job done. Ryw, they sued, but I thought it was because "people would see PeaceKEEPER and think it was a PeaceMAKER". The US Government needed as many revolvers as it could get. Action functions fine., s/n 0181xx. But the website is easy to track sale prices through the year. Fingers on triggers, especially that Civil War vet. How interchangeable are Uberti gun parts Retail $300. And if you happen to have another pre-loaded cylinder with you, PRESTO! WebAN ARMI SAN MARCO pistol is currently worth an average price of $286.19 new and $274.52 used . Lot 429: Armi San Marco Reproduction 1858 Revolver Two Reproduction Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: November 3, 2016 Estimated Price: $ 200 - $ 500 Price Realized: Details A) Armi San Marco Model 1858 Remington Revolver with Matching Box Manufacturer: ARMI SAN MARCO Model: 1858 Type: Revolver Gauge: 44 percussion The only Armi San Marcos gun I have a repro 1858 Remington that I bought in the early 1980s and it works fine. Products Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. How interchangeable are Uberti gun parts REcoil is essentially nonexistent. Everything you ever wanted to know about the 1858 Remington (and some things you didnt!). How about a five year old 1851 Navy, to a current 1861 Navy? ROFL, So nice to read about black powder stuff here. THE FINISH IS A STRIKING IRIDESCENT CHARCOAL BLUING WITH A TINY SPECK OF RUST IN FRONT OF THE TRIGGER 45 Caliber; 94% blue, good bore, excellent grips, 11'' barrel, ITALIAN REPRODUCTION "W. PARKER-LONDON" SINGLE SHOT PERCUSSION PISTOL. Check out our forum: A standard 1858s barrel measures eight inches. What are those little balls for? The heavier loads are a bitch on my wrists so Ido plinking at about 20 grains. Theres something fun about putting the Glock 30 away and taking out the Peacemaker. View more auctions here. Any you can look our website about turbo http://www.j2fastmotorsports.com/. BORE IS IN FAIR CONDITION. I carry a Sheriffs Model for Self Defense, every day! CYLINDER, BARREL AND LOADING ASSEMBLY IS BARE METAL. It was just the size of a small outfit, like 4-5 people there and I saw mostly lever rifles parts (might be they got their pistol from other sources). This was when ASM/Chaparral was making the infamous 73's and 66's. They are both shooters and I believe they will have a blast with this next time I visit. Put the caps in the back and shoot. Hooray for water! Manufacturer: ARMI SAN MARCO. Retail $300. He took the gun back. Web44 Caliber; very good+ bore, good grips, 7.75'' barrel, Pietta .44 caliber Remington 1858 style six shot black powder revolver in nickel plate finish. There are about three or four brands out there, so find the one that works best. Colonel in Texas Army. But, Armi Sport is still in business (under a new name). Chat with us; Phone us at (616) 432-6640 . WebArmi San Marco Black Powder Revolvers Remington 1858 Army & Navy Parts List Sort by: Show Available 0 Schematic w/ Parts List 1 Barrel 2 Barrel Stud 3 Loading Lever Latch 4 Loading Lever Latch Spring 5 Latch Pin 6 Loading Lever 7 Loading Lever Link Pin 8 Loading Lever Link 9 Plunger 12 Loading Lever Screw 13 Base Pin 14 Cylinder 16 Bolt 17 My dad bought one of these (pretty sure its the same thing) with an 8 barrel. They supplied American retailers with replica firearms over the 1960s thru 1990s. The 1858 Remington-Beals got the nod because of the top strap (previous buy didnt, Navy in .36) and it came with an extra cylinder. Is that what i just shot down with my 5 1/2 inch 1858? Gauge: 44 percussion. That's your build date. Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. .44 Cal percussion. Number of bids and bid amounts may be slightly out of date. No rust on my guns! Lock needs attention, hammer won't hold., s/n 346xx. So I fire the shotgun first now, and cuss at the rammer, and have 9 chambers of wholy fun otherwise. Years ago ASM had some fine artisans..the guns were good.ASM was under the direction of the Son in Law of Aldo Uberti. Grips for the Uberti 1873 Cattleman El Patron Grizzly Paw New Model as well as the 1860 and 1872 Colt army made by Cimarron, Pietta and Uberti. armi san marco I haven't had a lick of trouble out of it, other than losing the ejector housing screw. JavaScript is disabled. So based upon my experience, ASM is a solid hit or a wide miss. Hot water dissolves the salts in black powder fouling and heats the metal so it dryes fast and prevents flash rust. ARMI SAN MARCO She just a rolls out inna ya hand! Claimed copyright infringement. View Item in Catalog Lot #242 (Sale Order: 241 of 708) Sold for: $120.00 to F****b "Tax, Shipping & Handling and Internet Premium Manuals & Instructions The bad guy carries a Peacemaker (a bit earlier than its actual appearance, but what the hell, it aint a documentary) (Said to have claimed his last victem by shooting him twice, skinning him and nailing his hid on the livery stable door! We recently got our reader-responsive electronic monitoring and drone surveillance program up and running. Lightning Manual. Not only is that the right way to hunt, deer that go down fast and clean taste better. FINISH SHOWS LIGHT FADING WITH LIGHT HIGH-EDGE WEAR. I have a Pietta target model I like to take with me backpacking. Grand Army /Frontier Customer Service. If you want to make a guy worth killing, this should do it. While the patent date of this gun was in 1858, actual production didnt start till after 1861 or so, I think 62. That's your build date. Put some lube over the ball to prevent chain fire. The used value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.42) Rolling Remington. WW II RIBBON USS SAN MARCOS LSD-25 NAVY*EMBROIDERED POLO SHIRT/SWEAT/JACKET. Or even from New York? Black powder works best when it is compressed. If you load it with 30 grains, you get about 200 ft-lbs energy. A.S.M Remington 1858 We spotted this boxed ASM Walker at a pawn and gun shop at a price I couldn't pass up. Look on the revolver barrel or bottom or side of cylinder frame. With heavier charges, its good to go when trying to put Bambis mother in the freezer. Allen then started Western Arms which became Allen Arms, and then to Cimarron. But on my wish-they-would-make list a 5-shot .50 Old Army designed for sabot bullets and 50-grain Pydrodex pellets. Armi San Marco 1858 The standard pistol primer is an 11, but if it does not fit tightly and has to be squeezed to make it stay on, you have the wrong size. 10s will probably be best. I have guns I bought from them as long ago as 2001, and they are all beautiful. THERE ARE NO .45 Colt; 98% blue, very good+ bore, near mint grips, 3'' barrel, UBERTI CATTLEMAN REPRODUCTION OF A COLT SHERIFS MODEL IN EXCELLENT USED CONDITION. stan wayback Armi San Marco is still making guns and they are known for making guns with bad workmanship. I also had 2 spare cylinders. My First Colt Style Gun, and my Last Colt style gun! ARMI SAN MARCO Brass front sight, notched hammer rear sight. Selleck also used a Winchester 1876, and there are various Winny models all over town. Products 1883 Burgess Manual. Nice! -drop safety-Hammer- - Z52780, A. Uberti & C. 1872 Open Top I've had to do very little fitting on Uberti or Pietta replacement parts - Hammer/trigger/hand/bolt/cylinder/loading lever. To add to the confusion Chiappa did purchase the 92 rifle tooling and left over parts from ASM. Although original 1858s were finished in a very uniform blue, I particularly like the color-case hardening on the frame and the plain-jane, oil-finished grips. Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. Come join the discussion about hunting, fishing, survival, archery gunsmithing, optics, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! All Armi San Marco black powder cap and ball and cartridge conversion models were discontinued in 2000. About 200 ft-lbs Energy They make the guns for Chiappa now and the quality is still the worst out of Italy. Though the guns be identical, the first is free of any legal imcumberance, while the second has an FFL holder and a waiting period to deal with. Recently heard a story about ASM, that they moved out of the big city to a smaller town in the country. Today, we know Old Number 21478 as the Remington 1858 . I am convinced that the ONLY Reason that Colt got so many Government Contracts for this revolver design, was that he was a very good salesman! Two Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: May 25, 2022. Barrel: 12 inch Frankly, I like the 45LC version better. WebThe 1858 Remington New Army is both a beautiful collectors piece and a rugged side arm. Anyway it worked, never had a problem since. 1860 Henry Manual. My 1858 is an Uberti model previously owned by a North-South Skirmish Association member. THE BRIGHT BLUING IS EVEN THROUGHOUT. But Civil War rifled muskets were lethal out to 300, so I have to question such a claim. 1885 High Wall Manual. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Armi San Marco was a family owned gun maker in Brescia, Italy. Grips in very good condition, brass trigger guard 44 Caliber; 94% blue, very good bore, good grips, 9'' barrel, UBERTI REPRODUCTION OF A COLT 1847 WALKER PERCUSSION REVOLVER. The bucks are off limits. The type of man who could sell Deep Freezers and electric Fans to Eskimos! PIETTA AND I SHOOT 30 GRAINS OF PYRODEX FFFG AND IT JUST WILL MOVE MY HAND CAN I GO A LITTLE HIGHER ON MY GRAINS I AM A FIRST TIME SHOOTER OF THE CAP AND BALL REVOLVER THINK YOU FOR YOUR TIME PAUL. It has never been fired, came in the original box with the original booklet, and is in excellent condition. If you boil your cylinders in a saucepan, then fish them oout with a slim piece of doweling, by the time they are cool enough to touch with the hand, ALL the water will have evaporated from the heat,and you can start right in re-loading them. Armi San Marco 1858 Dont touch it unless the gun is pointing in a safe direction cause there is is no transfer bar. Bore and chambers in very good+ 36 Caliber; 97% blue, very good+ bore, very good+ grips, 6.58'' barrel, Pietta Remington 1858 revolver, 6 shot, 36. caliber with very good bore and chambers, slight surface corrosion in the chambers. I shoot them once in a while for old times' sake, and have loaned them out many times, with no problems. Jim, you mentioned the Ruger Old Army , 44 cal. Some shot high except a .36 Army San Marco Colt 1851 Navy. Looks a lot like the Ruger. Years ago ASM had some fine artisans..the guns were good.ASM was under the direction of the Son in Law of Aldo Uberti. 1885 Low Wall Manual. I started out with 10 to 15 grains, then worked up. Web* Armi San Marco, copy of Remington Model 1858, .44 cal, s/n 61367, black powder revolver. Old South Firearms, LLC (They are still remarkably cheap in both .25 and 32-20, but good luck if you lose the magazine.) If youve ever thought about getting into cap-and-ball pistols, and want an easy-to-use handgun thats also rugged and dependable, check out an 1858 Remington. 1883 Burgess Manual. Thanks in advance. Had a cowboy smith smooth the internals so they dont chew each other up.ook mighty sweet in a pair of El Paso Saddlery crossdraw Slim Jims. The new value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.95) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $286.19 . Meat harvesting is whats done here in Texas. What is really going on is that the low velocity sabot or conicals drop quite a bit, and holdovers are extreme. I was watching them in the 80s and was able to watch all of the Clint Eastwoood movies multiple times. Wow, TTAG must be monitoring my TV; this review came on here while Im watching The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. I bought a pietta model 1858 used and still havent fired it yet. He knew the early production were quality gun and at some point there was a move and or change of management and quality went in the crapper. Having an issue with my pietta 44 cal. My neighbor has a deer lease with a very comfortable raised blind. The patent date is 1858. Also, ASM use forged frames instead of castings on many of their revolvers. They were based primarily on the early 1st. Grips THSS TSRA NRA Life If you slip when cocking the hammer you can set a cap off. PS: if you want to do more target shooting, but find yourself having to sell your wife, EAA (European/American Arms (Germany) makes some beautiful peacemakers replicas in everything from 44 mag to 22 LR (the latter comes with a second cylinder for the robust little 22 magnum). Bore and chambers in very good+ $395.00 Add to Cart Compare Pietta Remington Percussion - C55996 Loved the pics too. 1866 Rifle Manual. Perfect for display and target shooting. I also don't hestate to loan it to others. The .44 ball over 35 grains is enough to kill a horse. Very good bore and chambers, with light corrosion present. WebDescription: Remington Model 1858 New Model Army Revolver, .44 caliber. No. swap out ok between the same model like the 1860 Army? I suggest going to the local gun shop and ask if there are any cowboy action shooters around. Have fun. if you wish you can contact your local ATF to find your answer. WebThat isn't going to be the case with the Italian replicas, but more often than not the answer is easily found stamped on the revolver. There is a wide variance in rifles, and I have seen it claimed that range is no more than 100 yards. It was a great shooter, but unfortunately it rusted up while in storage. They supplied American retailers with replica firearms over the 1960s thru 1990s. This may provoke howls of outrage, but whitetails with a scoped .243 or .308 is not hunting. The reason is that .44 is the muzzle diameter. I have no idea how many guns Ive owned since my first .22 at the age of 12 but in the most fun category I could narrow it down to two. However, I am 99% sure this is an Armi San Marco because my Armi San Marco cylinders cycle, time and lock perfectly in this pistol and and they sent me a Pietta trigger which fit just fine. .44 Cal percussion. Now, 155 years later, you can still buy brand new versions of Fordyces design, mostly made in Italy. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. The Remington-Beals as it was called back then came into its own with the onset of the Civil War. converted to fire fixed ammunition by replacing the barrel, bolt, breechblock, or any combination